AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X 32 Core & 64 Thread CPU Listed Online For Around $1200 US, Ryzen Threadripper 3960X Spotted Too
AMD's Ryzen Threadripper 3000 series processors have started showing up on retail stores which means that their launch is indeed close as reported yesterday. The initial lineup, which would get the 24 core Ryzen Threadripper 3960X and the 32 core Ryzen Threadripper 3970X has been listed online along with a placeholder price tag that may be close to the official MSRP.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X & Threadripper 3960X Listed Online - 32 Core Variant Priced Around $1200 US (Placeholder)
Well, we already got the update yesterday that AMD has moved the announcement a little bit back from the original date of 5th November. This was further confirmed when AMD canceled their 'Meet The Experts' webinar which was expected to take place a day after the announcement which didn't happen as per schedule. Regardless, the new announcement date is reportedly set for the 7th of November which is tomorrow so we will hopefully get our first official look at the new AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3rd Generation CPUs and the TRX40 series motherboards which would feature the sTRX4 socket to house the next-gen HEDT processor line.
The two retail stores that have listed the AMD Ryzen Threadripper CPUs are based in Vietnam and South Africa. The South African based retailer known as Wootware listed both processors but have since been removed from the site. Quasar Zone got hold of the product pages which include place-holder specifications for both chips. Do note that the specifications on either retailer aren't legit at and should simply be dismissed. Do note that the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X was also listed online at a different retail store with a suggested launch date of 30th September but that apparently didn't happen and AMD revised the NDA for their flagship mainstream 16 core chip. Similarly, the TRX40 series motherboards have also seen listings online, more on that here.
AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper Processor SKUs:
|CPU Name||CPU Cores||CPU Thread||CPU Predecessor||Base Clock||Boost Clock||Cache||TDP||Price||Retail Launch|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X/WX||64 Core||128 Thread||AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX (32 Core / 64 Thread)||TBD||TBD||TBD||~280W||$2999?||January 2020|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3980X/WX||48 Core||96 Thread||N/A||TBD||TBD||TBD||~280W||$2499?||January 2020|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X/WX||32 Core||64 Thread||AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX (24 Core / 48 Thread)||3.7 GHz||4.5 GHz||128 MB||280W||$1999||25th November 2019|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X||24 Core||48 Thread||N/A||3.8 GHz||4.5 GHz||128 MB||280W||$1399||25th November 2019|
What is interesting though is the Vietnamese retailer tinhocdaiviet who also listed down the Ryzen Threadripper 3970X with incorrect specifications but has a placeholder price for the 32 core beast. The processor has been listed for a price of 30,000,000 Vietnamese Dong or roughly $1200-$1300 US.
Now, this is interesting considering the 2nd Gen Threadripper based 2990WX which also had a total of 32 cores, had a price of $1799 US. Now, these placeholder prices are usually higher than the actual MSRP so if AMD is indeed planning to launch this around $1200 US, then we are looking at a $600 US from their previous 32 core chip while offering new Zen 2 core and additional PCIe 4.0 lanes which is simply impressive. Just like the specifications, the price couldn't mean anything at all but if this is what AMD is planning, then the 10th Gen Core X-series processors are in deep trouble, and possibly lost their competitive edge that Intel planned with their new pricing model.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series CPUs - Here's What To Expect In Terms of Price, Specs, and Performance
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 series family is internally known as “Castle Peak” and is stated to bring dominant leadership in the HEDT market. The family will prove to be a new watermark in performance and overall efficiency while new platform features will be introduced on the new and enhanced sTRX4 motherboards which are rumored to feature a revised socket and a new chipset
Currently, reports state that there will be two separate platforms for enthusiasts and workstation chips, the TRX40 and WRX80. The details of these platforms are listed below.
AMD TRX40 'Enthusiast' Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Processors
The TRX4 HEDT platform would feature quad-channel memory, UDIMM memory support with 2 DIMMs per channel and up to 256 GB of capacity per channel. This means that the platform will support up to 1 TB of memory. There would also be support for 64 Gen 4 PCIe lanes with 16 lanes switchable with the SATA interface. There also seems to be info regarding TDPs and we can also notice the segmentation here too. The Group 'A' series processors, which are the HEDT lineup for the TRX40 platform with 280W TDP, Tcase Max temperature of 60C and Tctl Max of 100C.
AMD WRX80 'Workstation' Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Processors
Now coming to the WRX80 series, we are looking at a pure workstation lineup. Even the processors built around this platform are spec'd similar to the EPYC 7002 variants, featuring 8-channel DDR4-3200 support in UDIMM, RDIMM, LRDIMM flavors. The platform would support 1 DIMM/channel featuring support for up to 2 TB of memory. There wouldn't be any OC support like the TRX40 series but you get 96-128 Gen4 PCIe lanes with 32 switchable lanes to SATA. The Group 'B' series processors which are the workstation lineup for the WRX80 platform will also feature a 280W TDP but different temperature range of Tcase Max temperature of 81C and Tctl Max of 100C.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper Generation Comparison:
|Family Name||AMD 1st Gen Ryzen Threadripper||AMD 2nd Gen Ryzen Threadripper||AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper|
|CPU Architecture||Zen 1||Zen+||Zen 2|
|Max CPU Cores||16||32||64|
|Max CPU Threads||32||64||128|
|PCIe Support||PCIe Gen 3.0||PCIe Gen 3.0||PCIe Gen 4.0|
|Max PCIe Lanes||64||64||128?|
|Max L2 Cache||8 MB||16 MB||32 MB|
|Max L3 Cache||32 MB||64 MB||256 MB|
|Chipset||X399||X399||TRX40, TRX80, WRX80|
Considering that AMD would want to remain in a dominant position with the Threadripper 3000 series, we will be looking at some spectacular amounts of multi-threaded performance numbers which will only get better with the added clock speeds thanks to the 7nm process node. The CPUs will also be getting major core bumps, but AMD would like to keep prices close to current levels.
Some of the leaker performance benchmarks that we have seen so far (#1, #2, #3) put the 32 core variants up to 70% faster than the existing Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX 32 core chip with an average bump of 35% in performance.
AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su:
“You know. it’s very interesting, some of the things that circulate on the Internet—I don’t think we ever said that Threadripper was not going to continue—it somehow took on a life of its own on the Internet,” Su said, speaking to a small group of reporters following her keynote. “You will see more [Threadripper] from us; you will definitely see more.
If mainstream is moving up, then Threadripper will have to move up, up—and that’s what we’re working on.”
If we look at the trend with AMD's jump from Ryzen Threadripper 1000 to Ryzen Threadripper 2000, we saw that the new processors with core parity of the previous generation were priced around the same with a $200-$300 shaved off from their previous price tag. The 1950X became 2950X and cost $200 US less. The higher core count parts were at a different market tier entirely, costing north of $1200 US but at the same time, much cheaper than their Core-X competitors.
In terms of raw performance output, the new die layout remains to be tested, but since it is more refined over the previous two generations with a stronger interconnect between them, the cache and latency performance may end up giving a bigger boost to total system responsiveness. AMD will definitely be aiming for both LGA 2066 and LGA 3647 lines with their new chips. The new CPUs are aiming retail availability around the end of November so stay tuned as we keep you posted for more Threadripper news!
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