AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X 24 Core, 3970X 32 Core Launching on 19th November Along With TRX40 Motherboards, Flagship 3990X CPU In January
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 series family launch dates have been confirmed in the latest leak by Videocardz. The leak confirms three planned SKUs along with the upcoming AMD TR4+ boards that will be available on launch day in November.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X, 3970X, 3960X CPUs Announcement Planned For November 5th - First SKUs To Launch on 19th November, Flagship To Be Introduced in January
AMD seems to be announcing three 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper processors in November, these would include the Ryzen Threadripper 3960X, the Ryzen Threadripper 3970X and the Threadripper 3990X. There's no mention of the Ryzen Threadripper 3980X by the source but that could launch later on after the rest of the lineup is unveiled.
Coming to the details, AMD will be introducing the three 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper processors along with their respective TRX40 motherboards based on the TR4+ socket on 5th November. The full specifications of each processor (except the 3990X) would be unveiled. The review embargo is expected to lift on 19th November, the same day as the availability. The flagship 3990X will only get a teaser during the early November announcement with a more detailed presentation and launch planned for January 2020.
It is likely that the Ryzen Threadripper 3990X, being the flagship of the lineup and offering up to 64 cores and 128 threads, would be announced at CES 2020 with a hard launch a few weeks later. It is interesting that AMD will have two SKUs during the November launch whereas they stated that the 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper series would premier with a 24 core / 48 thread SKU. This model has been leaked as the Ryzen Threadripper 3960X which means that the Ryzen Threadripper 3970X will feature a higher number of cores and threads. It is very likely that these dates might have changed but still gives us a good idea of when AMD is expected to unveil their next-generation HEDT CPUs.
AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper Processor SKUs:
|CPU Name||CPU Cores||CPU Thread||CPU Predecessor||Base Clock||Boost Clock||Cache||TDP||Price||Retail Launch|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X/WX||64 Core||128 Thread||AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX (32 Core / 64 Thread)||TBD||TBD||TBD||~280W||$2999?||January 2020|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3980X/WX||48 Core||96 Thread||N/A||TBD||TBD||TBD||~280W||$2499?||January 2020|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X/WX||32 Core||64 Thread||AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX (24 Core / 48 Thread)||3.7 GHz||4.5 GHz||128 MB||280W||$1999||25th November 2019|
|AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X||24 Core||48 Thread||N/A||3.8 GHz||4.5 GHz||128 MB||280W||$1399||25th November 2019|
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series CPUs - Here's What To Expect In Terms of Price, Specs, and Performance
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 series family is internally known as “Castle Peak” and is stated to bring dominant leadership in the HEDT market. The family will prove to be a new watermark in performance and overall efficiency while new platform features will be introduced on the new and enhanced TR4+ motherboards which are rumored to feature a revised socket and a new chipset that would restrict compatibility of older processors on the new platform.
Currently, reports state that there will be two separate platforms for enthusiasts and workstation chips, the TRX40 and WRX80. The details of these platforms are listed below.
AMD TRX40 'Enthusiast' Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Processors
The TRX4 HEDT platform would feature quad-channel memory, UDIMM memory support with 2 DIMMs per channel and up to 256 GB of capacity per channel. This means that the platform will support up to 1 TB of memory. There would also be support for 64 Gen 4 PCIe lanes with 16 lanes switchable with the SATA interface. There also seems to be info regarding TDPs and we can also notice the segmentation here too. The Group 'A' series processors, which are the HEDT lineup for the TRX40 platform with 280W TDP, Tcase Max temperature of 60C and Tctl Max of 100C.
AMD WRX80 'Workstation' Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Processors
Now coming to the WRX80 series, we are looking at a pure workstation lineup. Even the processors built around this platform are spec'd similar to the EPYC 7002 variants, featuring 8-channel DDR4-3200 support in UDIMM, RDIMM, LRDIMM flavors. The platform would support 1 DIMM/channel featuring support for up to 2 TB of memory. There wouldn't be any OC support like the TRX40 series but you get 96-128 Gen4 PCIe lanes with 32 switchable lanes to SATA. The Group 'B' series processors which are the workstation lineup for the WRX80 platform will also feature a 280W TDP but different temperature range of Tcase Max temperature of 81C and Tctl Max of 100C.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper Generation Comparison:
|Family Name||AMD 1st Gen Ryzen Threadripper||AMD 2nd Gen Ryzen Threadripper||AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper|
|CPU Architecture||Zen 1||Zen+||Zen 2|
|Max CPU Cores||16||32||64|
|Max CPU Threads||32||64||128|
|PCIe Support||PCIe Gen 3.0||PCIe Gen 3.0||PCIe Gen 4.0|
|Max PCIe Lanes||64||64||128?|
|Max L2 Cache||8 MB||16 MB||32 MB|
|Max L3 Cache||32 MB||64 MB||256 MB|
|Chipset||X399||X399||TRX40, TRX80, WRX80|
Considering that AMD would want to remain in a dominant position with the Threadripper 3000 series, we will be looking at some spectacular amounts of multi-threaded performance numbers which will only get better with the added clock speeds thanks to the 7nm process node. The CPUs will also be getting major core bumps, but AMD would like to keep prices close to current levels.
Some of the leaker performance benchmarks that we have seen so far (#1, #2, #3) put the 32 core variant up to 70% faster than the existing Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX 32 core chip with a average bump of 35% in performance.
AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su:
“You know. it’s very interesting, some of the things that circulate on the Internet—I don’t think we ever said that Threadripper was not going to continue—it somehow took on a life of its own on the Internet,” Su said, speaking to a small group of reporters following her keynote. “You will see more [Threadripper] from us; you will definitely see more.
If mainstream is moving up, then Threadripper will have to move up, up—and that’s what we’re working on.”
If we look at the trend with AMD's jump from Ryzen Threadripper 1000 to Ryzen Threadripper 2000, we saw that the new processors with core parity of the previous generation were priced around the same with a $200-$300 shaved off from their previous price tag. The 1950X became 2950X and cost $200 US less. The higher core count parts were at a different market tier entirely, costing north of $1200 US but at the same time, much cheaper than their Core-X competitors.
In terms of raw performance output, the new die layout remains to be tested, but since it is more refined over the previous two generations with a stronger interconnect between them, the cache and latency performance may end up giving a bigger boost to total system responsiveness. AMD will definitely be aiming for both LGA 2066 and LGA 3647 lines with their new chips. Intel has said that their upcoming Core-X series will offer a much better value proposition with 2x better perf per dollar compared to Skylake-X, but that remains to be seen in real-world benchmarks and reviews.