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NVIDIA Pascal Refresh “GeForce 20” Series Speculation – GeForce GTX 2080 Ti, GTX 2080 and Titan Black V2

Hassan Mujtaba
Posted Oct 6, 2016
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A few days ago, a Chinese leaker mentioned that NVIDIA might be preparing a new GeForce lineup based on their Pascal core. Based on the information provided, 3DCenter has posted a speculative specs sheet of what this lineup could like. Coming in 2017, prior to Volta, we can see a range of new cards for consumers.

Note: The information in this article is based on pure speculation. There’s no confirmation about the mentioned products for any upcoming GeForce cards. Hence, the article should be treated as a rumor till NVIDIA officially confirms any next-gen products.

NVIDIA Pascal Refresh “GeForce 20” Series Speculation – An Early Look at What NVIDIA’s 2017 Graphics Lineup May Look Like

NVIDIA introduced Pascal to consumers in Q2 2016. The lineup featured two cards, the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. Both cards provided a big leap in performance and efficiency over their predecessors. This meant that users can enjoy faster gaming performance at lower price and power consumption. For comparison, the GTX 1080 offered performance better compared to Titan X ($999 US) at $699 US. The GTX 1070 offered performance better than the GTX 980 Ti ($649 US), priced at $379 US.

Pascal has just started launching down the budget and entry level markets. The recent GTX 1060 cards and upcoming GTX 1050 cards will make Pascal come to a more affordable range, in terms of price. The Titan X (Pascal) serves the enthusiast sector with its very impressive specifications but a high price of $1200 US. It is currently the fastest card available to gamers and will remain so until NVIDIA launches a better product or AMD introduces a competitor in the form of Vega with HBM2.

So effortlessly, just like that, Jen-Hsun announced the GTX 1080.

There’s another graphics card expected in 2017, this one is rumored to be known as GTX 1080 Ti. Now we don’t have very concrete details about this product at the moment but it is expected to feature a lower price point than Titan X (Pascal) and will feature around the same performance of the flagship Titan card. One major feature about this card is that it will be open to custom models. This would allow AIBs to experiment with their own custom coolers and PCB solutions for better cooling and overclocking capabilities.

NVIDIA GeForce 10 Pascal Family:

Graphics Card Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti?NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3 GBNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GBNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080NVIDIA Titan X
Graphics CoreGP107GP107GP106GP106GP104GP104GP102
Process Node14nm FinFET14nm FinFET16nm FinFET16nm FinFET16nm FinFET16nm FinFET16nm FinFET
Die Size132mm2132mm2200mm2200mm2314mm2314mm2471mm2
Transistors3.3 Billion3.3 Billion4.4 Billion4.4 Billion7.2 Billion7.2 Billion12 Billion
CUDA Cores640 CUDA Cores768 CUDA Cores1152 CUDA Cores1280 CUDA Cores1920 CUDA Cores2560 CUDA Cores3584 CUDA Cores
Base Clock1354 MHz1290 MHz1518 MHz1506 MHz1506 MHz1607 MHz1417 MHz
Boost Clock1455 MHz1392 MHz1733 MHz1708 MHz1683 MHz1733 MHz1530 MHz
FP32 Compute1.8 TFLOPs2.1 TFLOPs4.0 TFLOPs4.4 TFLOPs6.5 TFLOPs9.0 TFLOPs11 TFLOPs
VRAM2 GB GDDR54 GB GDDR53 GB GDDR56 GB GDDR58 GB GDDR58 GB GDDR5X12 GB GDDR5X
Bus Interface 128-bit bus128-bit bus192-bit bus192-bit bus256-bit bus256-bit bus384-bit bus
Power ConnectorNoneNoneSingle 6-Pin PowerSingle 6-Pin PowerSingle 8-Pin PowerSingle 8-Pin Power8+6 Pin Power
TDP75W75W120W120W150W180W250W
Display Outputs1x Display Port 1.4
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x DVI
1x Display Port 1.4
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x DVI
3x Display Port 1.4
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x DVI
3x Display Port 1.4
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x DVI
3x Display Port 1.4
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x DVI
3x Display Port 1.4
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x DVI
3x Display Port 1.4
1x HDMI 2.0b
1x DVI
Launch DateOctober 2016October 2016September 201613th July 201610th June 201627th May 20162nd August 2016
Launch Price$109 US$139 US$199 US$249 US$379 US$599 US$1200 US

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti To Be Part of Pascal Refresh?

As per 3DCenter, NVIDIA could skip the GTX 1080 Ti naming and move directly to GTX 2080 Ti branding on the new card. Now we clearly don’t know if NVIDIA would use the GeForce 11 series branding or GeForce 20 series branding for their new cards but the latter seems better from a marketing perspective. Based on this, the new cards will be marketed as GeForce GTX 20** (Ti/SE).

Before moving onward, I want to make it clear that most of this information is speculation. Neither of this information is confirmed and just provides representation of what the upcoming line of Pascal cards may look like. One thing is certain at this point that all cores except the GP102 are available in their full configuration in the GeForce family. The full GP104 die is featured on the GTX 1080. The full GP106 die is featured on the GTX 1060 and the full GP107 die will make its way to the GTX 1050 Ti.2016_NVIDIA_Pascal_FINAL_published-page-031

So this only leaves two GPU which have room for expansion when it comes to SKUs. The GP102 and GP100. GP100 isn’t coming to consumers since it is designed for HPC and AI applications. GP102 on the other hand has been available on the consumer front for some time now. It is part of both Quadro and GeForce family. The Quadro variant features the full die configuration while the GeForce variant is based on a cut down version. So we can see a couple of GP102 variants coming for consumers soon. So without further a do, let’s look at the speculated cards as reported by 3DCenter.

NVIDIA GP102 – GeForce GTX Titan Black V2 and GeForce GTX 2080 Ti

The first two cards mentioned by the source are GP102 based variants. NVIDIA is expected to launch their full GP102 in the consumer market at some point and that is believed to be a Titan variant. NVIDIA’s Maxwell saw the release of the full GM 200 die on the Titan X and with Pascal, that could be a repeat. The card would be a new revision of the GTX Titan Black, V2 as I would like to call it. It would feature 3840 CUDA Cores clocked at around 1600 MHz, up to 24 GB of GDDR5X memory clocked at 12 GB/s along a 384-bit bus interface. That’s a total of 576 GB/s bandwidth without the use of HBM. Aside from these, it would have pricing of $1200 US, same as current Titan but with 15% additional performance.

The second card in the GP102 stack would be the GTX 2080 Ti or GTX 1080 Ti as we currently know it. This card is expected to feature 3384 CUDA cores clocked at around 1700 MHz and 12 GB of GDDR5X memory clocking in at 2500 MHz (10 GB/s). This would achieve the same theoretical bandwidth as current Titan X (Pascal). The card is expected to be priced at $799 US.

WCCF’s Take on the GP102 Pascal Refresh Cards:

NVIDIA has historically offered the best version of their big consumer die on a Titan card. We can look back at the original Titan, Titan Black, Titan X and see that these cards are their most expensive yet most beefiest prosumer solutions. The Ti variants have always been the main attraction for gamers, and that should be the case once again when NVIDIA intros the GP102 based card. This new offering will feature cut down specs but the availability of custom models and faster clocks will lower the performance gap between a full fledged Titan card and the Ti variants.

As for branding, that is up for debate. Whether NVIDIA will continue with GeForce 10 or move to the next number remains to be seen. As of now, rumors point to the GTX 1080 Ti naming scheme but marketing division can decide to change it as done with previous series (GeForce 700 Kepler-Refresh). You can expect the Ti variant in early 2017 followed by the larger Titan release a few months later.

NVIDIA GP104 – GeForce GTX 2080 and GeForce GTX 2070

Next up, we have two more GP104 variants. The GeForce GTX 2080 is said to replace the GTX 1080 with the same core config but faster clocks. We talked about TSMC improving their 16nm process which will guarantee faster clock speeds and better stability on Pascal cores. The GTX 2080 can feature clock speeds up to 2000 MHz for core and 12 GHz for GDDR5X memory. Pricing is said to be around $499 US due to ease of manufacturing and better yields of GP104 while performance would be boosted by 15%.

The GeForce GTX 2070 is said to get a core revision over the GTX 1070. We have seen NVIDIA offering better core configs on their mobility version of the GTX 1070 core that has 2048 cores. The GTX 2070 could go the same route along with faster clocks of 1700 MHz and GDDR5X memory clocked at 10 GHz. This card would deliver a 20% performance boost over GTX 1070 while being priced at $349 US.

WCCF’s Take on the GP104 Pascal Refresh Cards:

A GP104 refresh is least likely to happen but there’s no reason to believe it won’t happen at all. The GTX 2080 sounds like a small boost over the GTX 1080 but the pricing can attract some new users to the GeForce side. The GTX 2070, if it launches with these specs can be a big win. We can see a large number of GTX 1060 owners or Maxwell users quickly hop over to Pascal if the price and specifications of this product are aligned with what’s being speculated right now.

Still, the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 are very competitive solutions for the market right now with almost no competition in sight. Vega will have to be very competitive against these NVIDIA GP104 and GP102 parts for them to go the route of a full on Pascal Refresh in 2017. For Volta, we don’t expect it in consumer market until mid of 2018.

NVIDIA GP106 – GeForce GTX 2060 Ti and GeForce GTX 2060

The GP106 refresh will come in the form of GTX 2060 Ti and GTX 2060. These cards will replace the GTX 1060 6 GB and GTX 1060 3 GB models. If these cards are indeed planned for launch, we will see them in 2H of 2017. Specifications for both cards are same as the current ones but expect much higher clock speeds. Both variants will support 6 GB of GDDR5 memory and clock rates north of 1900 MHz. Performance increase would be minimal but pricing would come down by 10 percent.

WCCF’s Take on the GP106 Pascal Refresh Cards:

A Pascal GP106 refresh was mentioned in the earlier leak but we expect them to feature GDDR5X memory instead of GDDR5. Also, these parts will be placed against Vega 11, which will be the smaller of the two Vega cores. Another route NVIDIA can take is switch over to GP104 with the next GTX 2060 cards. A cut down variant that provides around 1664 or 1792 cores can offer decent performance with around 10% deficit over the GTX 1070.

NVIDIA GP107 – GeForce GTX 2050

Finally, we have the GP107 Refresh which is known as the GTX 2050. This card is said to feature same configuration as the GTX 1050 Ti with 768 CUDA cores but higher clocks of 1700 MHz and 8 GHz memory. Pricing should be around $150 US.

WCCF’s Take on the GP107 Pascal Refresh Cards:

The specifications for this card seem out of place. The GTX 1050 Ti is expected to boost around 1392 MHz while the GTX 2050 is said to clock around 1700 MHz. I don’t expect we can see such a big clock difference from a core based on the same process node with little improvements. Of course, I don’t know for sure but the other specifications might be true that is if this card ever launches.

This brings us to the end of the Pascal Refresh discussion. As pointed above, the entire article is purely based on speculation. We will be looking at new Pascal based launches in 2017 since Volta is expected in mid of 2018. That is at least for the consumer side. But this doesn’t mean that NVIDIA may go to a full line refresh. I think it’s best we wait it out till CES 2017 where NVIDIA is expected to announce new products. 2017 would also see the launch of AMD’s Vega consumers GPUs that could trigger NVIDIA to launch a new product line based on improved Pascal architecture. Do let us know in the comments below what you think about the speculated Pascal Refresh lineup.

NVIDIA GeForce 20 Series Pascal Refresh (Rumored) Lineup:

Graphics Card NameGPU CoreCUDA CoresClock Speed (Boost)Memory BusMemory TypeMemory ClockExpected Price
GeForce GTX Titan Black V2GP102 Pascal Refresh3840 CCs~1600 MHz384-bit bus interfaceGDDR5X12 GHz$1200 US
GeForce GTX 2080 TiGP102 Pascal Refresh3384 CCs~1700 MHz384-bit bus interfaceGDDR5X10 GHz$799 US
GeForce GTX 2080GP104 Pascal Refresh2560 CCs~2000 MHz256-bit bus interfaceGDDR5X12 GHz$499 US
GeForce GTX 2070GP104 Pascal Refresh2048 CCs~1800 MHz256-bit bus interfaceGDDR5X10 GHz$349 US
GeForce GTX 2060 TiGP106 Pascal Refresh1280 CCs~2100 MHz192-bit bus interfaceGDDR5/GDDR5X8-10 GHz$229 US
GeForce GTX 2060GP106 Pascal Refresh1024 CCs~1900 MHz192-bit bus interfaceGDDR5/GDDR5X8-10 GHz$179 US
GeForce GTX 2050GP107 Pascal Refresh768 CCs~1700 MHz128-bit bus interfaceGDDR58 GHz$139 US
In the upcoming Pascal Refresh, which card would you be more interested in?

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