NVIDIA : RTX 2080 Ti, 2080 & 2070 Are ~40% Faster vs Pascal in Gaming

Aug 30, 2018
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We're exactly three weeks away from when NVIDIA's highly anticipated Turing RTX 20 series graphics cards are set to hit shelves worldwide and gamers have been very eager to find out how the green team's latest and greatest gaming graphics cards will perform in games compared to existing GeForce 10 series Pascal graphics cards.

Specifically in games where RTX ray tracing and/or NVIDIA's brand new AI assisted anti-aliasing tech, DLSS, is not involved.  Especially since traditional gaming performance is an area that NVIDIA hadn't touched on during Turing's announcement event at Gamescom or since, that is until yesterday.

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NVIDIA : RTX 2080 Ti, 2080 & 2070 Are 35-45% Faster vs Pascal Predecessors in Current Games

The company's venerable tech PR man Tom Petersen went on HotHardware's Geeks webcast and talked about what everyone has been waiting for NVIDIA to talk about : Turing's traditional gaming performance versus Pascal.

HotHardware asked Tom about what gamers should expect from an RTX 2080 compared to a 1080, but Tom did us on better and talked about how the Turing lineup in general will perform compared to Pascal. Stating that gamers should expect roughly between 35-45% better performance going from Pascal to the same tier Turing graphics card.

HotHardware :
"What can gamers expect? Let's say a gamer has a 1080 now, could they expect a 2080 to be a faster card? Is the experience with current games going to be better?"

NVIDIA Director of Technical Marketing, Tom Petersen:
"That's a great question I think we could've done a little bit better on during the public announcement. Turing is a beast. It's going to significantly improve the gaming experience on old games and it's going to rock it when you adopt new technology..."

"We did share some data that showed a bunch of games and you'll see the perf [performance] roughly somewhere between 35 to 45 percent better at roughly the same generation. So, 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti and of course that's going to vary based on the game and based on the setting."

Transcript by wccftech.com

Expect a Larger Performance Gap Between RTX 2080 Ti & GTX 1080 Ti vs. RTX 2080 & GTX 1080

Earlier this week we broke a story stating that NVIDIA's Turing delivers ~50% better performance versus Pascal. That's what several sources have told us over the past week. Tom's ~40% isn't far off the mark, depending on the games being tested and the cards being compared.

With that being said, we're told to expect that the RTX 2080 Ti will show a bigger performance advantage versus the GTX 1080 Ti in comparison to what the RTX 2080 can deliver versus the GTX 1080. Which makes sense, considering that the CUDA core count delta between the 1080 Ti and the 2080 Ti is considerably larger than that between the 1080 and 2080.

Turing : Great Performance, Steep Pricing

Generally speaking, a ~%40 performance boost from Pascal to Turing is a solid jump up, especially at the top-end of the spectrum which is more prone to stagnation due to its higher susceptibility to bottle-necking in addition to the lack of competition from the Radeon side in this area of the market.

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With that being said, it appears that a solid jump up in performance maybe soured by a disproportionately larger jump up in pricing across NVIDIA's Turing lineup, which are priced at very nearly double what their current Pascal predecessors cost. The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti will set you back almost double what a GTX 1080 Ti goes for right now. The situation with the RTX 2080 and the RTX 2070 isn't much better either, both of which are priced at almost twice what the GTX 1080 and the GTX 1070 are going for right now.

Is It Worth It?

If indeed Turing delivers a 35-45% performance improvement over Pascal, this will be the first graphics generation in memory to deliver inferior performance per dollar compared to its predecessor. This is primarily the result of how NVIDIA chose to price the RTX 20 series, which can arguably be seen as excessive from this point of view.

Why? Because ray tracing. A feature that the company has announced will make its way to 11 games down the line, but there's a caveat. Not even the RTX 2080 Ti is fast enough to run it at resolutions higher than 1080p with a 60 FPS average. If you play at 4K or 1440p  -- and many high-end GeForce owners certainly do -- this is obviously a problem. It's clear then that despite the considerable performance sacrifices and the cost premium associated with Turing, NVIDIA is still banking on ray tracing to sell it.

Is it worth it? This is the Turing dilemma.

The Turing Dilemma

NVIDIA GeForce RTX/GTX "Turing" Family:

Graphics Card NameNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 TiNVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
GPU ArchitectureTuring GPU (TU117)Turing GPU (TU116)Turing GPU (TU116)Turing GPU (TU106)Turing GPU (TU106)Turing GPU (TU104)Turing GPU (TU102)
Process12nm FNN12nm FNN12nm FNN12nm FNN12nm FNN12nm FNN12nm FNN
Die Size200mm2284mm2284mm2445mm2445mm2545mm2754mm2
Transistors4.7 Billion6.6 Billion6.6 Billion10.6 Billion10.6 Billion13.6 Billion18.6 Billion
CUDA Cores896 Cores1408 Cores1536 Cores1920 Cores2304 Cores2944 Cores4352 Cores
TMUs/ROPs56/3288/4896/48120/48144/64192/64288/96
GigaRaysN/AN/AN/A5 Giga Rays/s6 Giga Rays/s8 Giga Rays/s10 Giga Rays/s
Cache1.5 MB L2 Cache1.5 MB L2 Cache1.5 MB L2 Cache4 MB L2 Cache4 MB L2 Cache4 MB L2 Cache6 MB L2 Cache
Base Clock1485 MHz1530 MHz1500 MHz1365 MHz1410 MHz1515 MHz1350 MHz
Boost Clock1665 MHz1785 MHz1770 MHz1680 MHz1620 MHz
1710 MHz OC
1710 MHz
1800 MHz OC
1545 MHz
1635 MHz OC
Compute3.0 TFLOPs5.0 TFLOPs5.5 TFLOPs6.5 TFLOPs7.5 TFLOPs10.1 TFLOPs13.4 TFLOPs
MemoryUp To 4 GB GDDR5Up To 6 GB GDDR5Up To 6 GB GDDR6Up To 6 GB GDDR6Up To 8 GB GDDR6Up To 8 GB GDDR6Up To 11 GB GDDR6
Memory Speed8.00 Gbps8.00 Gbps12.00 Gbps14.00 Gbps14.00 Gbps14.00 Gbps14.00 Gbps
Memory Interface128-bit192-bit192-bit192-bit256-bit256-bit352-bit
Memory Bandwidth128 GB/s192 GB/s288 GB/s336 GB/s448 GB/s448 GB/s616 GB/s
Power ConnectorsN/A8 Pin8 Pin8 Pin8 Pin8+8 Pin8+8 Pin
TDP75W120W120W160W185W (Founders)
175W (Reference)
225W (Founders)
215W (Reference)
260W (Founders)
250W (Reference)
Starting Price$149 US$219 US$279 US$349 US$499 US$699 US$999 US
Price (Founders Edition)$149 US$219 US$279 US$349 US$599 US$799 US$1,199 US
LaunchApril 2019March 2019February 2019January 2019October 2018September 2018September 2018

 

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