ASUS has spilled the beans on AMD's X590 mainstream and X599 HEDT platforms by confirming actual products to Videocardz. AMD has already introduced X570 as their mainstream solution for Ryzen processors but it looks like they might have more in the plans for future high core count processors.
ASUS Reportedly Confirms AMD X590 and X599 Platforms For Ryzen and Ryzen Threadripper Processors
According to the report, ASUS, one of the top AIB partner of AMD is internally working on a series of motherboards that utilize the unreleased AMD X590 and AMD X599 chipsets. These boards are aimed at both mainstream and high-end desktop platforms and include the following:
- ASUS Prime X590-PRO
- ASUS ROG STRIX X590-E
- ASUS ZENITH II Extreme
The source suggests that all three motherboards that have been internally confirmed by ASUS may or may not make their way to the market at all. Now it's possible that the X590 series launch could coincide with AMD's Ryzen 9 3950X which is going to be their flagship 16 core chip on the AM4 CPU socket. The 16 core chip was a mystery since it was the only chip missing during the initial 3rd Gen Ryzen announcement but got unveiled a few weeks after at E3 2019 (The PC Gaming Show). AMD's X590 could also make a surprise appearance with a limited number of motherboards when Ryzen 9 3950 launches but that's just speculation. Recent reports also confirmed the X570 and X590 were indeed planned with one offering PCIe Gen 3 support while the other offer PCIe Gen 4 support but the plans were dropped and AMD gave X570 Gen 4 support.
The other series is the X599 which is getting the new ZENITH II Extreme motherboard from ASUS. ASUS has already made two ZENITH motherboards based on the X399 chipset, the ROG ZENITH (1) Extreme and the ROG Zenith Extreme Alpha. Both of these motherboards are some of the best TR4 socketed products that you can buy for Threadripper 1st and 2nd Gen at the moment. The ZENITH II Extreme, which is supposedly based on the X599 chipset, would offer support for AMD's 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper processors.
AMD CPU Roadmap (2017-2022)
|Architecture||Zen (4) / Zen (5)||Zen (4) / Zen (4C)||Zen (4) / Zen 3 (+)||Zen (3) / Zen 3 (+)||Zen (3) / Zen 2||Zen (2) / Zen+||Zen (1) / Zen+||Zen (1)|
|Process Node||5nm / 3nm?||5nm||5nm / 6nm||7nm||7nm||7nm||14nm / 12nm||14nm|
|Server||EPYC Turin||EPYC Bergamo||EPYC 'Genoa'||EPYC 'Milan'||EPYC 'Rome'||EPYC 'Rome'||EPYC 'Naples'||EPYC 'Naples'|
|Max Server Cores / Threads||256/512||128/256||96/192||64/128||64/128||64/128||32/64||32/64|
|High End Desktop||Ryzen Threadripper 8000 Series||Ryzen Threadripper 7000 Series||Ryzen Threadripper 6000 Series (TBD)||Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Series (Chagall)||Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series (Castle Peak)||Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series (Castle Peak)||Ryzen Threadripper 2000 Series (Coflax)||Ryzen Threadripper 1000 Series (White Haven)|
|Ryzen Family||Ryzen 8000 Series||Ryzen 7000 Series||Ryzen 6000 Series||Ryzen 5000 Series||Ryzen 4000/5000 Series||Ryzen 3000 Series||Ryzen 2000 Series||Ryzen 1000 Series|
|Max HEDT Cores / Threads||TBD||TBD||TBD||64/128||64/128||64/128||32/64||16/32|
|Mainstream Desktop||Ryzen 8000 Series (Granite Ridge)||TBD||Ryzen 7000 Series (Raphael)||Ryzen 5000 Series (Vermeer-X)||Ryzen 5000 Series (Vermeer)||Ryzen 3000 Series (Matisse)||Ryzen 2000 Series (Pinnacle Ridge)||Ryzen 1000 Series (Summit Ridge)|
|Max Mainstream Cores / Threads||TBD||TBD||16/32||16/32||16/32||16/32||8/16||8/16|
|Budget APU||Ryzen 8000 (Strix Point Zen 5)||Ryzen 7000 Series (Phoenix Zen 4)||Ryzen 6000 Series (Rembrandt Zen 3+)||Ryzen 5000 Series (Cezanne Zen 3)||Ryzen 4000 Series (Renoir Zen 2)||Ryzen 3000 Series (Picasso Zen+)||Ryzen 2000 Series (Raven Ridge)||N/A|
AMD's 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper family will be offering up to 64 cores and 128 threads based on the new 7nm Zen 2 core architecture. The HEDT platform itself would be a leadership design which offers the most feature-rich I/O and disruptive performance and value. Now the X599 naming has shown up previously for Intel's next-gen HEDT platform so it's still up for question as to whether Intel would be using the X599 naming scheme or AMD would. That remains to be seen but support for the motherboard (ROG ZENITH II) and the ASUS X590 series has already been added within the latest version of HWiNFO.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series CPUs - Here's What To Expect In Terms of Price, Specs, and Performance
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 series family will debut in the second half of 2019. This family will be internally known as “Castle Peak” and is stated to bring dominant leadership in the HEDT market. The family will prove to be a new watermark in performance and overall efficiency while new platform features will be introduced on the TR4 socketed motherboards to take them to the next level. We will also be looking at PCIe Gen 4.0 support on these motherboards which is already confirmed for the X570 chipset based AM4 motherboards for Ryzen 3000 series CPUs.
Considering that AMD would want to remain in a dominant position with the Threadripper 3000 series, we will be looking at some spectacular amounts of multi-threaded performance numbers which will only get better with the added clock speeds thanks to the 7nm process node. The CPUs will also be getting major core bumps, but AMD would like to keep prices close to current levels.
AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su:
“You know. it’s very interesting, some of the things that circulate on the Internet—I don’t think we ever said that Threadripper was not going to continue—it somehow took on a life of its own on the Internet,” Su said, speaking to a small group of reporters following her keynote. “You will see more [Threadripper] from us; you will definitely see more.
If mainstream is moving up, then Threadripper will have to move up, up—and that’s what we’re working on,”
If we look at the trend with AMD's jump from Ryzen Threadripper 1000 to Ryzen Threadripper 2000, we saw that the new processors with core parity of the previous generation were priced around the same with a $200-$300 shaved off from their previous price tag. The 1950X became 2950X and cost $200 US less. The higher core count parts were at a different market tier entirely, costing north of $1200 US but at the same time, much cheaper than their Core-X competitors.
In terms of raw performance output, the new die layout remains to be tested, but since it is more refined over the previous two generations with a stronger interconnect between them, the cache and latency performance may end up giving a bigger boost to total system responsiveness. Expect more details in the coming months.