AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper ‘Sharkstooth’ With 32 Zen 2 Cores Spotted Again – Destroys The Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX & Intel W-3175X CPUs
AMD's 3rd Generation Ryzen Threadripper made a surprise appearance a few weeks ago in the Geekbench database. Codenamed 'Sharkstooth', the 32 core processor based on the 7nm Zen 2 architecture showed a massive performance increase compared to existing flagship HEDT processors. The chip has now appeared once again in the same database and once again shows just how good the next-gen Threadripper is going to be for enthusiasts.
AMD's Mega-Tasking Monster, The 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper Reappears in Geekbench - Destroy's Every Single HEDT CPU With Just 32 Cores In Hand
The same engineering sample has appeared once again (Credits: Momomo_Us) and this time we get to see slightly different clock speeds. Do note that the previous chip and this one feature the same core config of 32 cores, 64 threads, coupled with 128 MB of L3 and 16 MB of L2 cache. The combined cache on this chip would be 144 MB whereas the Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX 32 core features 64 MB of L3 and 8 MB of L2 for a combined cache of 72 MB.
The main difference between the two entries is that the previous chip featured clock speeds of 3.60 GHz (base). The boost frequency for the previous entry was not listed. The new entry has both the base and boost clocks mentioned. The new one lists down a 2.20 GHz base and 4.17 GHz boost clock. As far as I can tell, these could either be inaccurate clocks or simply an early ES part that we are looking at. Another difference between the two entries is the OS they were tested in. Do note that the Linux entries usually return a higher score compared to Windows 10 based entries. Since the new entry was made in Windows 10, the score would be lower than earlier but so will be that for the other HEDT chips we are comparing here.
So when it comes to performance, the 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper part scored 5523 points in single-core and 68,576 in the multi-core test. The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX at its stock frequencies scores around 4800 points in single-core and 36,000 points in multi-core tests. The Intel W-3175X scores 5148 points in single-core and 38,000 points in multi-core tests. If this entry turns out to be a lower clocked ES part, then we can see a 2x performance difference gen over gen with the same 32 core config (3rd Gen Ryzen vs 2nd Gen Ryzen) and same can be said if we make a comparison with the Intel part although it features slightly lower cores (28 core / 56 thread).
Also what is really surprising is that the Zen 2 based Ryzen Threadripper has a much higher single-core performance compared to Intel's W-3175X which has a higher base and boost frequency and shows just how fast the next-gen Ryzen Threadripper is going to end up.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series CPUs - Here's What To Expect In Terms of Price, Specs, and Performance
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 series family is expected to debut in the second half of 2019. This family will be internally known as “Castle Peak” and is stated to bring dominant leadership in the HEDT market. The family will prove to be a new watermark in performance and overall efficiency while new platform features will be introduced on the TR4 socketed motherboards to take them to the next level. We will also be looking at PCIe Gen 4.0 support on these motherboards which is already confirmed for the X570 chipset based AM4 motherboards for Ryzen 3000 series CPUs.
Considering that AMD would want to remain in a dominant position with the Threadripper 3000 series, we will be looking at some spectacular amounts of multi-threaded performance numbers which will only get better with the added clock speeds thanks to the 7nm process node. The CPUs will also be getting major core bumps, but AMD would like to keep prices close to current levels.
AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su:
“You know. it’s very interesting, some of the things that circulate on the Internet—I don’t think we ever said that Threadripper was not going to continue—it somehow took on a life of its own on the Internet,” Su said, speaking to a small group of reporters following her keynote. “You will see more [Threadripper] from us; you will definitely see more.
If mainstream is moving up, then Threadripper will have to move up, up—and that’s what we’re working on.”
AMD's CEO, Lisa Su, also confirmed within a tweet that we can expect more information on the next-gen Ryzen Threadripper CPUs later this year so expect to hear something soon. Following is the tweet:
Good to see you in the crowd @IanCutress ? and yes we promise more on next-gen Threadripper later this year!
— Lisa Su (@LisaSu) August 20, 2019
If we look at the trend with AMD's jump from Ryzen Threadripper 1000 to Ryzen Threadripper 2000, we saw that the new processors with core parity of the previous generation were priced around the same with a $200-$300 shaved off from their previous price tag. The 1950X became 2950X and cost $200 US less. The higher core count parts were at a different market tier entirely, costing north of $1200 US but at the same time, much cheaper than their Core-X competitors.
In terms of raw performance output, the new die layout remains to be tested, but since it is more refined over the previous two generations with a stronger interconnect between them, the cache and latency performance may end up giving a bigger boost to total system responsiveness. Once again, expect more details in the coming months.