Suggestions for LCD HDTV !

[turboed_Isloo]

I need an LCD TV with HD Capability in the range of 55000-65000 ! Prefered would be one with VGA and HDMI input !

Please also compare them according to color contrast, inputs etc.

Thanks !

[Fookie]

ull get a 26" or 29". 720p HDTV.

If u opt of a monitor instead of a TV (i.e., u dont want the cable input- the standard worldcall cable, 350rs. walee kee input) then u can get a 1080p LCD monitor (instead of a 720p LCD HDTV)

The monitor will have DVI, HDMI, VGA , S-Video, Component ...but no input for the composite cable found in TVs.

[Dr.Farhan]

first search for the thread in "science and tech section " named Samsung Lcd thread" by Dr.farhan..
Complete info on complete Buying and Comparative Advice..

2nd you can easily get an LG panther and sony S series 32 in LCD in that price wich will be 720P, with HDMI, and everything.. althouigh i would never recomend the Sony S series..

read that thread and make a smart choice..... and post your comments tere too..

[pataykhan2]

New model of sony S series .. S310 is available at metro for around 56k.

[shajeel]

^^^ and it is a frickin good model...for the price

[OmMeE]

Go for SONY.. it dusts out all other LCD's.

[Dr.Farhan]

Sony Sucks Ass in S Series..Extremely Poor Design, Stand, Ugly LCD, and Pic Quality is pathetic compared to even the Cheapest available LCD..
V is preety good in both design and Pic Quality, but is too expensive for its pic quallity..
W is an Ideal Lcd, but available only in very large sizes..and out of your buget..
X is the best, But very very expensive..


Samsung R series has the best pic quality, but limited to 40in size,instead of 42.. which is awkward, but Good news is that it is also available in 32in, at a very decent price, and has the most Smoothest Pic Quality and Motion flow..Very high contrats and Ultra fast Responce time..

LG makes the Most Stylish LCD, both the Panther, and The new sscarlet....in your buget, The 32In Panther is the best Price VS Performance LCD.. it has almost every Input available, inclucing HDMI, and 6-8 other AV inputs, A VGA input at 1366x768, and Variable Audio Out(the best Audio out Sound feature in any LCD)..
LG also Comes wih Full One Year Waranty..
LG has the best Wall mount kit, and that is Totally un-necessary, cuz the Stand is a magnificent Piece of art, with a 120 rotate available....something sadly not found in many LCD..


Panasonic is cheap.. and affordable,, but thats it..

Thompson and sharp not available here in pakistan..

LCD prices at Metro are Higher than what can be had a Abid Market..





Coming from an LCD reviewer.. Trust these Verdicts..
Read the Samsung LCD thread using search in "Science and ETch" section..for even more In depth Review..

[pataykhan2]

Originally Posted by pataykhan2

New model of sony S series .. S310 is available at metro for around 56k.

And I mis-typed the model, its S400 (the new model with bravia engine 2 and 15000:1 dynamic contrast ratio), and is available at metro, don't know about abid market.

KLV-32S400A : S Series : BRAVIA LCD TV : Sony Middle East & Africa

Samsung R series has the best pic quality, but limited to 40in size,instead of 42.. which is awkward, but Good news is that it is also available in 32in, at a very decent price, and has the most Smoothest Pic Quality and Motion flow..Very high contrats and Ultra fast Responce time..

And Farhan, Samsung R series is quite old model. Newest Samsung are like A4, A5, A6 series, like the model Samsung A550 compares with this Sony S400 (having 15000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, and other similar attributes). Older models like R series and sony S310 had like 8000:1 or something.

price at metro:

[navid_ahmed]

I got this article in my RSS feeds. This might help you in selecting a HDTV.

Giz Explains: How to Buy an HDTV Like a Pro



The economy sucks. But like Warren Buffett, you should be greedy when everyone else is skurred. If you've got the extra scratch, this is probably the best holiday season ever to buy an HDTV, since retailers don't want a pile of them going obsolete in their warehouse. But what should you look for in an HDTV? HD Guru Gary Merson—a dude who's reviewed 125 TVs at once—uses sophisticated gear for his own studies, but told us the five most important things that all the rest of us Joe the Plumber types can look out for when buying an HDTV.

You can't exactly load up a bunch of test signals and spectrum analyzers to carry into Best Buy to check out their TVs (though Gary has been known to do this). Still, there are some basic things you can look for beyond the specs, which are at times intentionally misleading. Once you've swept the reviews from the likes of HD Guru, CNet and Home Entertainment, giving you an approximate idea of the best performers in your price range, find out where they are and visit them in person. Obviously, the sets on the shelf aren't always properly tuned, but if the store is committed to making a sale—and they are more now than ever before—they should produce a remote and let you mess around to properly vet it for your living situation.


Contrast

The contrast ratio is the most important thing to look for in today's HDTVs. But don't be fooled by crap like a 1,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio—it's truly meaningless, since there's not even test equipment to provide documented proof of the retardedly high numbers they throw out. What you can do, though, is check out the blacks. Bright whites aren't a big issue today—most TVs now perform admirably on that side of the spectrum—so blacks are the most important.


Take a dark scene, and cup your hands around a black area of the screen, blocking out all the ambient light from your view. What it's look like? Does it glow? Or is it really black? Next, how does it flow from dark to light? Is it a smooth gradation or is it a harsh step up? You want really deep, dark blacks and bright whites, but you want a nice even gradation between the two. Historically, plasmas have been better at blacks, but LED-backlit LCDs are catching up. Since the latter are ridiculously expensive, you'll probably find a better deal on a plasma.


Angle of View

This test is pretty easy. Stand in the center of the TV. Then move off to the right or left. How quickly do the colors start to turn unnatural or seriously lose saturation? If colors shift or fade quickly, you will have problems. You want the widest viewing angle possible—that is to say, you want the picture to look as good as far off to the side as possible—so people stuck on your sofa's netherparts aren't left out of the I Am Legend suckfest. As you can see here, even LCDs from the same maker can have different viewing angles:



Vertical viewing angle is less important because you will generally place your TV level with your eyes while seated, but if you watch TV while doing other things, and don't have a fancy swivel wall mount, you should try to see how colors shift or fade as you crouch down or tiptoe up above the TV screen.
LCDs tend to have more problems than plasma in this regard—the costly, otherwise awesome LED-backlit LCDs are especially known to have reduced viewing angles. Microdisplay projection TVs, like the Mitsubishi LaserVue and other DLPs, are also subject to viewing-angle issues, mostly a reduction in brightness.


Static Resolution

Static resolution is a little difficult to comprehensively evaluate without test signals, but you can kind of eyeball it by looking at fine detail on a set. If you're watching a Yankees game—one of Gary's favorite examples—can you make out the pinstripes cleanly? On a close-up of a head of hair, can you see every strand? It's all about the details. On a crappy set, you just can't see 'em.



Motion Resolution

Motion resolution matters a lot if you're a sports or action movie fan. It's also fairly easy to test, just have them put on a baseball or football game. Remember the Yankee pinstripes? Sure they might look clean when a pitcher is chilling on the mound, but how about when he winds up? Or when a football player is dashing down the field, can you see his legs, or are they a total blur? On a set with good motion resolution, you wouldn't lose those details. Again, plasma traditionally has the edge here, though 120Hz LCDs do make up for LCD's inherent motion-blur weakness.


Overall Impression

This is probably the most subjective, though ultimately what really matters. Do you like what you see? On a great set, the picture will be crisp, the colors will be vibrant and rich (aka saturated) and it'll have a nice pop to it. As much as personal taste matters, the most "objective" way to evaluate this is to look at faces. Do they look real, with natural, smooth transitions from lighter to darker areas, or are there severe discrepancies between one area and another? Some older HDTVs gave standard-def faces a waxy look. Just take a step back and think about what you really think looks fantastic (within your budget, of course).

That should cover most of the basics of eye-on-the-tube picture quality evaluation—it's not the only thing to look for in an HDTV, but definitely the most important after price. And speaking of price, stay glued to Giz for heads-ups on the best TV deals to put all this new insight to use. And if you've got any other TV buying tips, let 'em loose in the comments. You can also get more in-depth info about plasma and LCD TVs here and here.

[genrex]

Generally, Samsung has the best LCD technology, followed by LG. Sony is a distant 3rd, keeping in mind what is available in Lahori market. btw you can also check out some Philips and Panasonic models which are way better than any of those 3.

[Dr.Farhan]

Originally Posted by pataykhan2

And I mis-typed the model, its S400 (the new model with bravia engine 2 and 15000:1 dynamic contrast ratio), and is available at metro, don't know about abid market.

KLV-32S400A : S Series : BRAVIA LCD TV : Sony Middle East & Africa


And Farhan, Samsung R series is quite old model. Newest Samsung are like A4, A5, A6 series, like the model Samsung A550 compares with this Sony S400 (having 15000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, and other similar attributes). Older models like R series and sony S310 had like 8000:1 or something.

price at metro:

@pataykhan..

My post was specific about his buget..

the 6 series Samsung are WAAAAYYYY off buget for the thread starter .. therfore, my pst was not on techological breakthrus in LCD occuring every second, but a buying advice for the Buget limt of the Thread starter..


Samsung has Un-parraleled LCD picture quality from all the 5point theory described above..

LG has a VERY minute Jaggies screen... but it still WAYYYYY better than the Un-natural looking Smoothing aplied on all the sony Higher end screens.. and S series is still Suck-Series...