AMD’s Hybrid Phoenix 2 “Little Phoenix” APU With 2+4 Core Configuration Spotted

Mar 17, 2023 at 03:00pm EDT
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AMD is working on its own hybrid BIG.little project which is expected to launch as the Phoenix 2 APU lineup for low-power platforms. One such configuration seems to have been spotted within the MilkyWay@Home database.

AMD BIG.little Phoenix 2 APU With Hybrid 2+4 Core Configuration Spotted

The latest SKU was spotted by @InstLatX64 within the MilkyWay@Home database. Although the APU has no name or SKU branding mentioned, it is stated that the "A70F80" CPUID belongs to a range of upcoming APUs that will be part of the Phoenix 2 family. The particular SKU features 12 threads and InstLatX64 states that this is a hybrid configuration comprising 2+4 cores. The CPU is equipped with 1 MB of cache and was tested with 16 GB of memory.

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As for what AMD's Phoenix 2 project is, the upcoming hybrid design is said to feature 2 standard Zen 4 cores and at least 4 clock/power-optimized Zen 4 cores. The Zen 4 cores are essentially the same architecture but the way power is managed across them is very different. It is not like Intel's hybrid approach where the P-Core and E-Cores utilize vastly different architectures.

But that's not all, since the Phoenix 2 APUs are aimed at low-power and entry-level platforms, they are also said to feature reduced GPU compute units. So while the standard Phoenix chips feature an 8-12 CU configuration, the Phoenix 2 APUs might feature half of that with 4-8 Compute Units. It might seem like a downgrade over the Van Gogh SOC but we should remember that these are 4nm CUs that utilize the RDNA 3 graphics architecture and also run at faster frequencies.

AMD Phoenix APU Specs:

SOC NameVan Gogh SOCPhoenix 1Phoenix 2
Process Node7nm4nm4nm
Die Size163mm2178mm2137mm2
Transistors2.4 Billion20.9 Billion25.0 Billion
CPU ArchitectureZen 2Zen 4Zen 4 + Zen 4C
Cores / Threads4 / 88 / 166 / 12
CPU Clock (Max)3.5 GHz5.1 GHz4.7 GHz
GPU ArchitectureRDNA 2RDNA 3RDNA 3
GPU Compute Units8 CUs (512 SPs)12 (768)4 CUs (!256 SPs)
GPU Clocks1.6 GHz2800 MHz2500 MHz
MemoryLPDDR5-5500DDR5-5600
LPDDR5x-7500
LPDDR5-6400
LPDDR5X-7500
TDP4-15W15-30W15-30W
ProductsSteam DeckLaptops / HandheldsHandhelds
Launch202220242024

The next Valve Steam Deck is a prime candidate which would utilize AMD's Phoenix 2 APUs among a list of other handheld and portable devices. It will definitely be interesting to see the efficiency numbers that the Phoenix 2 APUs produce. The first AMD Phoenix APUs will make their debut on laptops in March 2023 so we can expect an update later in 2023 on the Phoenix 2 parts.

About the author: A Software Engineer by training and a PC enthusiast by passion, Hassan Mujtaba serves as Wccftech's Senior Editor for hardware section. With years of experience in the industry, he specializes in deep-dive technical analysis of next-generation CPU and GPU architectures, motherboards, and cooling solutions. His work involves not only breaking news on upcoming technologies but also extensive hands-on reviews and benchmarking.

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