HDTV Recomendations

[zuhaib_s]

hey guys,
i m thinkin of buyin a hdtv with 360. any suggestions?

[sheryar]

i have a 10,000US$ hdtv in mind
can you afford it?

plz be more specific

i am looking for a Rs.$$$$$ hdtv ....

[zuhaib_s]

lol k something around 25-35k i guess, cant aford more. heard they r pretty cheap nowadays especially the nobel ones but not too sure bout quality

[)V(@v3r!cK !]

NOBLE! ...

I own one and it simply rocks :P....btw..can any1 help me with connecting my PC with the tv...i've got a 7600GS...and a noble hdtv ....i knw its off topic but still..

[zuhaib_s]

dude wat size and how much did u buy it for

[manigamer]

well im planning to buy an hdtv aswell i do have a samsung hdtv projection 42inches but i dont know why the heck my 360 wont show 1080i on it i mean the tv says 1080i ready but then when i switch to 1080i it says no signal wat does that mean :s, so other tahn that which hdtv is good and cheaper price wise which has hdmi output aswell looking in 32 and 42 inch sizes both

[)V(@v3r!cK !]

its 29"...i didn't have a much of a choice....it cost me 24k.....the black one..tht is literally flat from the front....so...any help with connecting my pc to it...i want to run sum hd stuff to see how good it is...

[zuhaib_s]

i think for us pipz noble is the best choice bcoz it doesnt cost much, not too sure bout quality though yet, will c it tomorrow, btw when u go to options in ur 360 do u c options like 720p or 1080i, coz i only get resolutions lke 1920X something

[Filthy Fish]

1080i gives you leprosy Stay far far away

and NO 1080p is not better just because 720 < 1080

Crash bandicoot, if you want to avail your self of 1080p on a 360 you will need to find an HDTV that supports a VGA connection, because thats how it works, with tiny pixies and stardust

[Carlos]

Guys guys..........you are only mixing things up

Some facts.

- Resolutions heirarchy is like 480i<480p<720p<1080i<1080p
- X360 doesnt support 1080p. The maximum for X360 is 1080i
- 1080p is only viewable over a digital connection i.e. either DVI or HDMI
- for 25K you will not be able to get any hdtv even if its noble
- True HD resolution starts from 720p. Below this it is not considered HD
- True HD screen will always be widescreen

No as far as I know 29" noble only supports 480p and there are some models with 720i but still X360 can be connected to it via cmponent cable. So to enjoy atleast a descent HD resolution you would have to increase your budget to around 60K and you can find models in noble/philips but I am not sure whether those will be widescreen or not. Increase your budget a lottle more to 1K and then you can find the base HD screen in either lcd or plasma. Sorry mate, it still out of our range......

Originally Posted by (V)@v3r!cK

its 29"...i didn't have a much of a choice....it cost me 24k.....the black one..tht is literally flat from the front....so...any help with connecting my pc to it...i want to run sum hd stuff to see how good it is...

There are two methods.

Either use the S-video cable or you must have got a dongle with your 7600gs with component output. These are three outputs i.e. red/green/yellow which can be connected to TV's component input, but you would have to set the resolution of your windows according to your TV's resolution as Tvs dont have any scaling option like computer monitors.

[king_huzi]

Originally Posted by manigamer

well im planning to buy an hdtv aswell i do have a samsung hdtv projection 42inches but i dont know why the heck my 360 wont show 1080i on it i mean the tv says 1080i ready but then when i switch to 1080i it says no signal wat does that mean :s, so other tahn that which hdtv is good and cheaper price wise which has hdmi output aswell looking in 32 and 42 inch sizes both

I suggest you do the december update ... it has fixed HD viewing problems for a lot of people ...

Originally Posted by Carlos

Guys guys..........you are only mixing things up

Some facts.

- Resolutions heirarchy is like 480i<480p<720p<1080i<1080p
- X360 doesnt support 1080p. The maximum for X360 is 1080i
- 1080p is only viewable over a digital connection i.e. either DVI or HDMI
- for 25K you will not be able to get any hdtv even if its noble
- True HD resolution starts from 720p. Below this it is not considered HD
- True HD screen will always be widescreen

No as far as I know 29" noble only supports 480p and there are some models with 720i but still X360 can be connected to it via cmponent cable. So to enjoy atleast a descent HD resolution you would have to increase your budget to around 60K and you can find models in noble/philips but I am not sure whether those will be widescreen or not. Increase your budget a lottle more to 1K and then you can find the base HD screen in either lcd or plasma. Sorry mate, it still out of our range......



There are two methods.

Either use the S-video cable or you must have got a dongle with your 7600gs with component output. These are three outputs i.e. red/green/yellow which can be connected to TV's component input, but you would have to set the resolution of your windows according to your TV's resolution as Tvs dont have any scaling option like computer monitors.

As of fall update ... Xbox 360 fully supports 1080p over component/VGA

Not true ... 1080p is a signal like 720p ... HDMIhas got nothing to do with carrying this signal .. but it is true that 99% devices which support 1080p have HDMI inputs and ofcourse HDMI is the preferred method

Noble 29" HDTV is for 25k ... now i know its not a Samsung plasma .. but it does the job ... the graphics are comparable to a JVC HDTV CRT i saw .. Colour seperation is not as good as sony but again 25k ... i have the 34" model and simply love it ... Have 2 hdtv devices connected to it ... and the difference bw SD and HD is huge ... i will try n post a few pics (although cameras do tend to rape tv stills)

Your last 2 statements are correct ...

[Fookie]

Noble 29" HDTV is for 25k

Supports 720p ???????????

[manigamer]

nah yar it has nothing to do with the update i have already done taht and i also get teh option 1080p aswell coz in the latest update this option became available and have u ppl clicked the hdtv button switch on the cables of 360 to hdtv coz i have ?

[zuhaib_s]

went to noble showroom the 29 inch one is absolute garbage, the picture quality is crap really. compare it ith the hdtv lcd u will c. anyways on the 360 dashboard options do u get display options like 1080p or 720p, i get resolutions like 1280x 1024 and so on. i have a viewsonic vx924 tft and now i dun c the need to buy a 29 inch big tv really. its bigger though but i dont think worth it, the worth ones are like 60k.

[Carlos]

Originally Posted by king_huzi

I suggest you do the december update ... it has fixed HD viewing problems for a lot of people ...

As of fall update ... Xbox 360 fully supports 1080p over component/VGA

Agreed......I just quickly googled it and am fascinated that X360 now supports 1080p through a simple software upgrade.

Originally Posted by king_huzi

Not true ... 1080p is a signal like 720p ... HDMIhas got nothing to do with carrying this signal .. but it is true that 99% devices which support 1080p have HDMI inputs and ofcourse HDMI is the preferred method

What does this mean? Basically, HDTVs use a fair amount of circuitry and processing power to decode incoming signals before displaying an image on the screen. Because HDMI has long been planned to be 'the connection' for HD signals, most manufacturers have built 1080p HDTVs that are only able to accept 1080p via HDMI. Consequently, only a few 1080p capable HDTVs support 1080p signals via Component connections, which are generally restricted to 1080i. A few more 1080p HDTVs will accept an analog 1080p signal via VGA, but often only with the addition of a VGA-to-DVI dongle. To put it simply, trying to work with 1080p without HDMI is very difficult.

Source: _http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html

Now this is definitely confusing and what I have been reading around in past is that since 1080p requires more bandwidth it is almost impossible for component cable to carry this signal and so these are restricted to carry 1080i at most but some resources says 1080p is possible via component. Anyway the last sentene in the above paragraph says it all.

Now I have seen your Vista+X360 MCE thread and you told there you are experiencing 1080p on your TV. Is it on component or VGA???? Any problem you have found???

Originally Posted by king_huzi

Noble 29" HDTV is for 25k ... now i know its not a Samsung plasma .. but it does the job ... the graphics are comparable to a JVC HDTV CRT i saw .. Colour seperation is not as good as sony but again 25k ... i have the 34" model and simply love it ... Have 2 hdtv devices connected to it ... and the difference bw SD and HD is huge ... i will try n post a few pics (although cameras do tend to rape tv stills)

Your last 2 statements are correct ...

The 34 incher you have, is it CRT, if so I am sure its not widescreen. Whats the price for it and what resolutions/connections does it supports