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Old 04-08-09, 01:52 PM
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Peshawar - Fear is spreading across University Town, an upmarket residential area in Pakistan's north-western city of Peshawar, due to the overt presence of the controversial US private security contractor Blackwater.

Sporting the customary dark glasses and carrying assault rifles, the mercenaries zoom around the neighbourhood in their black-coloured armoured Chevy Suburbans, and shout at motorists when occasionally stranded in a traffic jam.

The residents are mainly concerned about Blackwater's reputation as a ruthless, unbridled private army whose employees face multiple charges of murder, child prostitution and weapons smuggling in Iraq.

'Sometimes, these guys stand in the streets and behave rudely with the passers-by, sometimes they point guns at people without provocation' said Imtiaz Gul, an engineer, whose home is a few hundred metres from the US contractor's base on Chanar Road in University Town.

'Who rules our streets, the Pakistani government or the Americans? They have created a state within the state,' he added.

Repeated complaints to the authorities have been to no avail since, according to residents.

Blackwater provides security to the employees of Creative Associates International Inc (CAII), an American company carrying out multi-million-dollar development projects in the country's Islamic militancy-plagued Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA).

Founded in 1997 by Erik Prince, a former US Navy SEAL officer and a major contributor to Republican Party candidates, Blackwater has hired thousands of former military personnel from Western countries as well as other mercenaries from the Third World.

It emerged as the largest of the US Department of State's private security companies, winning multi-million-dollar contracts globally, but attracted a lot of media attention in September 2007 when its personnel killed 17 civilians in an unprovoked shooting while escorting a convoy of US State Department vehicles to a meeting in Baghdad.

The firm is now facing a civil lawsuit filed in the US state of Virginia by those who were injured and who lost family members in the massacre.

The company faces charges of human rights violations, child prostitution and possible supply of weapons to the Kurdistan Workers' Party, an Iraqi group designated by United Nations, European Union and NATO as a terrorist organization. It has been declared persona non grata in Iraq.

To conceal its bad reputation, the shadowy company renamed itself Xe Worldwide in February 2009 and Prince resigned as its chief executive officer the following month.

In Pakistan, the Interior Ministry asked the regional governments of all four provinces to keep an eye on the activities of Blackwater in early 2008, immediately after it was believed to have been hired by CAII, according to a media report.

CAII works locally under the name of FATA Development Programme Government to Community (FDPGC).

Lou Fintor, a spokesman for the US embassy in Islamabad, said that Blackwater-Xe was not in any way associated with its missions in Pakistan. But the denial does not include the possibility that the security firm was working for a private US company.

Blackwater has recruited dozens of retired commandos from Pakistan's army and elite police force through its local sub-contractors, said an intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Some Pakistani security officials suggested that besides providing security to the aid workers, Blackwater was carrying out covert operations.

Among these were buying the loyalties of influential tribal elders and tracking the money flowing to al-Qaeda and Taliban through the national and international banks, something which perhaps goes far beyond the mandate of a private security firm.

Taliban and al-Qaeda militants who use the tribal regions to attack civilian and government targets inside Pakistan and NATO-led international forces in Afghanistan are also watching Blackwater's moves.

On June 9, suicide bombers drove an explosive-laden vehicle into Peshawar's sole five-star hotel, the Pearl Continental, after shooting the security guards, and detonated it at the side of the building where some Blackwater guards were staying.

Sixteen people died including four of the security firm's personnel - two Westerners and the same number of locals. Four more guards were injured.

The dead bodies and injured were moved quietly. Neither the Pakistani government nor any foreign official admitted these deaths, apparently at the request of US officials.

'Absolutely no comments,' Qazi Jamil, the senior superintendent of police in Peshawar said abruptly when German Press Agency dpa asked him about the Blackwater deaths.

But a minister in the North-West Frontier Province government, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he knew that some US private guards died but did not know how many and which firm they were from.

'The provincial government was not directly dealing with the issue. It's the federal intelligence agencies that handled it,' said the minister.

The possibility that Islamist militants might be plotting more attacks on the contractors is also a source of concern for many residents in University Town.

'In the first week of July we requested the interior minister in a letter that targets like Blackwater should be kept away from the residential areas,' said Ihsan Toro, a trader and member of council of citizens in University Town.

'Al-Qaeda and the Taliban must be after them,' added Toro.

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dayem... are we in news or are we... this was the only thing left for Pakistan's fate to be sealed like Iraq...
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I am not in favour of extremist but I hope blackwater guys get killed mercilessly everywhere! **** or american!
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DAWN.COM | Pakistan | US plans for bigger presence raise eyebrows

The Americans intend to spend about $1 billion for the upgradation of their Islamabad presence...

For this purpose the American embassy has acquired about 18 acres of land for a meagre Rs1 billion, courtesy of the Capital Development Authority. The CDA had recently, in another transaction, sold just six acres of land for Rs6 billion. A Turkish firm has already built a 153-room compound for the embassy.
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The upcoming fortress-like embassy is meant for accommodating close to 1,000 additional personnel being sent to Islamabad as part of the US administration’s decision to increase its staff in Pakistan. The new staffers would augment the 750-strong American contingent already based in Pakistan against a sanctioned strength of 350.

What appears to be more alarming is that this staff surge would include 350 marines.

Additionally, the Americans are pressuring Islamabad to allow the import of hundreds of Dyncorp Armoured Personnel Carriers.
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Ok if Islamabad has given them land to develop there embassy then that is ok....it is a diplomatic norm followed by many frndly countires.......If we are giving them land at cheap prices they would de doing so.....
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Ok if Islamabad has given them land to develop there embassy then that is ok....it is a diplomatic norm followed by many frndly countires.......If we are giving them land at cheap prices they would de doing so.....
rumours were that in ISB it was our own inteligence who blew that hotel... reason was Blackwater.

So those of you who think that Govt allowed or is OK with the presence of BlackWater are too naive to understand anything....
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Blackwater in Pakistan?! That is proper bad news. There've been posts about these guys on the forum before. And I don't remember anything flattering.
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rumours were that in ISB it was our on inteligence who blew that hotel... reason was Blackwater.

So those of you who think that Govt allowed or is OK with the presence of BlackWater are to naive...
Pretty bad collateral damage, if you ask me. 100s of innocents killed. And just as a clarification there's a marked line between our Govt and our intelligence agencies - they are no way near the same thing. Which is unsurprising given the fragility of the governments we have in Pakistan.
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rumours were that in ISB it was our on inteligence who blew that hotel... reason was Blackwater.

So those of you who think that Govt allowed or is OK with the presence of BlackWater are to naive...
Cateye why did you quote my post.....it does not mention black water
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oh yea now the fun begins .. hope the all talibans die and rot and let such Blackwater type peace loving people protect us all .. yay !!
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I am against Talis and I believe that we should use any means necessary to eradicate them and their ideology. However, Blackwater is not significantly different than Talis. They terrorize people, kill innocent men, women and children. Engage in child prostitution. We can't even label some of these charges against Talis so in some instances, Blackwater/Xe is worse than Talis.

It is extremely sad to know that the GOP has allowed Blackwater to operate within its boundaries. Even Iraqis, who have nothing anymore, were strong enough to kick out Blackwater.

I really hope that media goes into its usual frenzy over this and help us kick these bastards out.
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Tall ask, I know, but: A.M.E.N.
Not necessarily. Generally, I am against GEO for it's sensational journalism (or yellow jouralism) methods. However, it can come in handy for situations like these. May be it's my wishful thinking. But I didn't see any news about Blackwater on Geo so chances are, it ain't gonna happen.
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I, too, am 100% against the Taliban, but this significantly enlarged presence of Americans in Islamabad and of Blackwater(!!!) in Peshawar is pushing it a bit too far. The government needs to put its foot down and tell them that this is unacceptable.
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