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Old 21-09-08, 11:49 AM
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You know what's more tragic than this huge blast? It's the fact that the life is going on, the way it was before this blast. Just like that .... Govt has reacted the same way, opposition reacts with the same words, media reports the same way and so on. We don't even mourn over the deaths of our brothers and sisters properly before trying to support our own objectives. I feel like crying my heart out (and i wil cry or my nerves will just give up). This year we have had more than 1000 deaths in these blasts and ....

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But then again, many of us do want to change for the better but how do we do it? If we talk of solutions everybody will come up with the solutions we've already used but to no avail .... Our enemy (and God knows how many this country has) seems to hit the bullz eye everytime he planned something against us ... we are attacked, we are tortured, we are killed, we are ruled by inefficient, we are clueless, we are frustrated, we are lost and we are owned bigtime
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Old 21-09-08, 12:20 PM
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the area is full of security no truck is allowed how the hell this happened?

By Ansar Abbasi

ISLAMABAD: Was there a top secret and mysterious operation of the US Marines going on inside the Marriott when it was attacked on Saturday evening? No one will confirm it but circumstantial evidence is in abundance.

Witnessed by many, including a PPP MNA and his friends, a US embassy truckload of steel boxes was unloaded and shifted inside the Marriott Hotel on the same night when Admiral Mike Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad.

Both the main gates (the entrance and the exit) of the hotel were closed while no one except the US Marines were either allowed to go near the truck or get the steel boxes unloaded or shift them inside the hotel. These steel boxes were not passed through the scanners installed at the entrance of the hotel lobby and were reportedly shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the Marriott.

Besides several others, PPP MNA Mumtaz Alam Gilani and his two friends, Sajjad Chaudhry, a PPP leader, and one Bashir Nadeem, witnessed this mysterious activity to which no one other than the PPP MNA objected and protested.

A source present there told The News that after entertaining them with refreshments at the Nadia restaurant at midnight when Mumtaz Alam, along with his friends, was to leave the hotel, he found a white US embassy truck standing right in front of the hotel's main entrance.

Both the In-gate and the Out-gate of the hotel were closed while almost a dozen well-built US Marines in their usual fatigues were unloading the steel boxes from the truck. No one, including the hotel security men, was either allowed to go near the truck or touch the steel boxes, which were being shifted inside the hotel but without passing through the scanners.

Upon inquiry, one of the three PPP friends who was waiting for the main gates of the hotel to open to get his car in, was informed that the suspicious boxes were shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the hotel. Mumtaz Alam was furious both at the US Marines and the hotel security not only for the delay caused to them but also for the security lapse he was witnessing.

On his protest, there was absolutely no response from the Marines and the security men he approached were found helpless. Mumtaz Alam told the hotel security official that they were going to endanger the hotel and its security. He was also heard telling his friends that he would never visit the hotel again. He also threatened to raise the issue in parliament.

One does not know whether the PPP MNA revisited the hotel after that mysterious midnight but his brother Imtiaz Alam, who is a senior journalist, was in the same hotel when the truck exploded at the main gate of the hotel. Imtiaz Alam had a lucky escape and found his way out of the hotel with great difficulty in pitch darkness.

One of the lifts he was using fell to the ground floor just after he forced the door open on the 4th floor and got out of it.
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Old 21-09-08, 12:55 PM
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in reference to above article..this i wanted to post last night, but too tired form the Gt...

this has absolutely alot to do with USA.. in comparison to 9/11.. this is 9/20.. any more relationship needed..?
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just read in news.... 3 coys of army deployed to protect PM and president house...... though president house is empty.....

My Question: whose gonna protect us?? The bloody tax payers!!!!!!!!!


Secondly: Can anyone question our secret agencies from where the hell these guys managed 1000 KG of TNT!!?? Is it that easy to find in PK?


Seriously: Pakistan say zinda bhaag!
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It wasn't TNT but plastic explosives. Plenty of 'em present in the FATA areas.
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tnt would have been more devastating . no?
kher reports says they hide the explosives and showed themselves as a truck with construction material . and when they werent allowed to go in front of parliament they bombed mariott .
their is quite a lot of construction in that area . eg the new secretariat plaza
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tnt would have been more devastating . no?
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One of they eye witness at Geo said that first a car came, a guy came out and tell everybody to run for their lives and that they have got three minutes for that.

Anybody has seen the hole it made in the street? it gives an impression that some daisy cutter was dropped there.
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It was 1 ton of explosives, packed in a construction truck. As it seems, this act was very well financed.
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600 kgs to be exact.

The story narrated by nofel makes no sense at all but makes good gossip.
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it wasnt narrated by me it was narrated by tv channels
plus i can say construction is going their as my dad works in construction company that is working their and luckily he visited the site just a few days ago.
plus cctv vod is on air now and their are two bomb explosion
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600 kgs to be exact.

The story narrated by nofel makes no sense at all but makes good gossip.
Dude ... We are Pakistanis ... Whatever bad happens here Coz of our own mistakes and stupid beliefs ... we simply blame Jews, America and west for it ... Its nothing new, its our tradition ... Shameless Tradition and people like Insar Abbasi who prooly never uttered a single positive n Optimistic word from their Pessimist mouth are enjoying these traditions by spreading stupid conspiracy theories.
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U.S. military advisors may soon head to Pakistan - Los Angeles Times


Express Buzz - US Marines may have been target of Marriot attack: Officials


Senior CIA officers were target of Islamabad blast - Yahoo! India News


US Marines could have been the Marriott target


Senior CIA officers were target of Islamabad blast

aangirfan: THE CIA AND THE MARRIOTT BOMB IN ISLAMABAD
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Well, if they have a difference, and they are not stopping them, what kind of difference is this???
Simple, they don't want to get engaged into this shit. They are smart and therefore keeping themselves away from it, they are not fighting US war like us. If you don't like your neighbor doesn't mean you start beating them with their enemies.
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Hopefully you are not trying to justify yesterday's suicide attack and just sharing the info ... but there are some people who are trying to justify yesterday's attack by using this lame excuse ... This doesn't justify the killing of lots n lots of innocent people who died in that and many other suicide attacks, In any way possible, Whats the point of talking abt 1 or 2 or 3 US Marines who got killed in attack along with 50 Muslims (innocent people)? Shame on people who are trying to justify these attacks by giving such lame excuses ... Those Americans weren't Human beings? Doesn't they had families who are now abusing Muslims for killing them?

What kind of picture we are showing to the world? we are animals ... Wild Animals ...
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